(3.29) And there are also images of a beautiful showing through the wall.

Yes but the question is, is it like so much graffiti or isn't  ?

Well one of the things, do you remember Richard, one of the things I didn't like about Madrid was all the , yes so it does seem hypocritical to say I like Banksy's work because he is, after all, a graffiti artist, I don't know but I feel he's got more of a point somehow, I enjoy the .

Yes that's the problem isn't it ? It's a point of view, I think it's , but what to the listeners think ? Are people like Banksy artists and therefore maybe get lots of money for their or are they or maybe even both? (4.20)